[mdlug] Setup a Matrix server, Robert.

[Jay]

Greetings,

On Tue, 17 Jan 2023, Robert James Fulner wrote:

>>> Setup a Matrix server then, Robert. The group is in need of one. I would
>>> support it over email.
>
> Thanks Richard! It sounds like a splendid idea. Are you offering to do
> so? Personally I don't have the time to donate to such right now.
>
> A surprising number of groups still use mail lists, such as this GNU
> Mailman one that we use, mostly groups that have been around for
> decades, like my union. As old saying goes, "if it ain't broke don't
> fix it" usually wins out over adapting new technology.


    I rather like plain old SMTP Email.  I don't care for anything that I 
*HAVE* to have a GUI in order to read comments - in TEXt - from another 
person.  Any added flash and pizaz is just a waste, as only the PRINTED 
TEXT is needed to convey the majority of any communications.  A MIME 
attachment of an image is sometimes helpful but not always necessary.

    For the record, I still use ALPINE and read all of my email as PLAIN 
TEXT.  Alpine does a nice job of rendering most HTML Email (Apple should 
have been burned to the ground for introducing that trash onto the 
Internet) into just the text.  I do *not* need the images most people send 
in Email as theiy're just extranios garbage.

    The added benefit is that absolutely NOTHING "executes: when I read an 
Email.  Some folks refer to it as "opening" a message and express 
security concerns in reading Email.  What's to open?   With Alpine there 
is nothing to open and nothing will ever be executed by the processor or 
any application - hence no possible way to bring in virii.  Yea Alpine!!! 
Safe as ever!!! :)

    If whatever is proposed excludes my seeing MDLUG member communications 
using Alpine and simple SMTP Email, then I'm off to do better things 
elseware.  Call me a crumudgeon, but I don't buy into new technologies 
just because they are new.  That's for the snot-noded, pimply-faced kids, 
not for me.   Let's stick with MAILMAN :)

       --- Jay  WB8TKL
           Crumudgeon, 1st Class.
           Got the T-Shirt.




There certainly
> are limitations to email, mostly related to the deluge of messages
> from across the known universe. I can only speak for myself, but I've
> only regularly started reading these messages again when I switched
> from reading them in my email inbox to reading them in my Friendicia
> feed. But that's also part of the beauty of email, and other open
> protocols that have had time to mature, is you configure a bajillion
> ways to access it as you prefer, rather than be limited to one walled
> garden like Discord.
>
> I certainly would have no objections to MDLUG hosting a matrix server
> if that's what we'd like to do. I'm not familiar enough off hand to
> know how accessible old messages are for such. The current achieve of
> this mail list is accessible through 2006.
>
>> zomg, it's not commmieware?!?!?
>
> Hey Scott, to paraphrase rms:  Free Software does not fit into any one
> political box. It contains socialist ideas, capitalist ideas, and
> anarchist ideas.
>
> I'd say that's one reason why Free Software is for everyone.
>
> Jim Fulner
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