[mdlug] Linux Text Editors -- Try Cooledit

[Jay]

Greetings Gib,
    I know that copying a block of text/code is easy, but I use it so 
rarely because I usually just Cut-and-Paste with the mouse, that I don't 
remember the keystrokes.  One of my clients was a room mate of the author 
of VI so he just flew through VI like it was nothing!  He basically grew 
up on it and never felt that it was difficult.  He could edit files faster 
that most people could use a GUI editor.

       --- Jay  WB8TKL


  On Thu, 5 Jan 2023, Gib wrote:

> Yeah. Same here. I just can't remember how to copy a clock of code.
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 5:39 PM Jay <jjn at nuge.com> wrote:
>
>> Greetings fellow MDLUGers,
>>     When I was teaching UNIX/Linus System Administration classes at
>> Washtenaw Community College I made my students learn to use VI/VIM.  They
>> had to learn the basics needed to open, edit, and save files.
>>
>>     The reason was that EVERY UNIX/Linux distro included VI (or VIM).  You
>> could install and start up a new installation, and any config files that
>> needed modification could be done *without* having to have an Internet
>> connection nor install some third-party program.  VI was there and it just
>> works!
>>
>>     The other benefit was that VI/VIM works well over limited bandwidth
>> when logging in over a 300 baud dialup or across a very congested network.
>> It even runs well (and has a VERY small memory footprint) on a machine
>> that is running at 100% CPU load and/or little or no Swap space.  VI also
>> lets you perform complex edits with a single command at the : command
>> prompt.
>>
>>     For a SysAdmin, having a text editor that is always there, has
>> consistant commands no matter how OLD or NEW the distro, and is efficient
>> enough to run under extreme conditions, is very important when managing
>> many remote servers across networks..
>>
>>     I'll admit being biased as I've been using VI/VIM since the Yggdrasil
>> days of Linux and use it for EVERYTHING.  I use it daily, and at 65 years
>> old I'm *not* keen on learning the new-and-improved next flash in the pan!
>> I've seen favorite editors come and go, yet VI/VIM is still there and it
>> still works fine.  But I'm willing to listen to what the world has to
>> offer - but don't anticipate that I'll change my ways :)  YMMV
>>
>>     Just sayin'.... (wry grin)
>>
>>        --- Jay  WB8TKL
>>
>> BTW - I still write web pages using VI and hand coded HTML.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2023, LAP wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 21:03:50 -0500 (EST)
>>> Michael Corral <micorral at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> it still looks like the same 90s-era fvwm-ish
>>>> application it's always been
>>>>
>>>
>>> Cooledit is derived from the mcedit internal text
>>> editor of the Midnight Commander file manager+:
>>>
>>> https://midnight-commander.org/
>>>
>>> If one is ruled by fashion and social facilitation
>>> then I suppose that arguments that adduce such meaningless
>>> jargon like "90s-era" and "retro" will persuade others
>>> of like mind to automatically reject.
>>>
>>> But the rational person will take a more objective approach.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I haven't seen anything Cooledit can do that Emacs can't,
>>>> and there's plenty that Emacs can do that Cooledit can't.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Except provide a GUI that frees the user from having to be
>>> enslaved by keyboard strokes.
>>>
>>> But isn't Emacs the ultimate example of a throwback to a
>>> bygone era?
>>>
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