[mdlug] Completely replacing Windows 98se with Linux!

[Aaron Kulkis]

Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 01:15:12AM -0400, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>> The problems that it solved were well-understood.
>> The problems it has created are not well-understood.
>>
>> Therefore, it is a step backwards, not forwards.
>
> By your definition, any change that can produce future problems that
> aren't understood ahead of time is a step backwards, and any change
> that produces future problems that are understood is a step forward.
>

Soilving a big problem in exchange for a minor progblem is a step forward.

Solving minor problems in exchange for major progblems is a step backwards.

Ob sheesh: SHEESH!


> While I agree that in an ideal world, all potential problems any
> change could make should be understood ahead of time, it isn't the
> world we live in.
>
> Following your argument would lead to a static, never changing world
> of obsessive-compulsive adherence to an existing set of rules, no matter
> how well the rules work, at least they're understood.  What you're
> describing is the very opposite of stepping forward.
>
> With progress comes change.  Sometimes change results in
> unpredictability, but without it, there would be no progress.
>
> I have no problem with trying out new things, even if it breaks
> stuff.  This is why I use Fedora, and I've been aware of the UsrMove
> change since it was introduced in 2012.  Developers for Fedora have
> been working within this change for 2 years now, and now Red Hat (and
> CentOS) are getting a product that's had 2 years of testing.  It's not
> a crazy jump into the unknown.  Distros are choosing this because it
> makes sense.

Distros are choosing it because once one deamon has been written using
a systemd library call, then ALL of systemD gets pulled in, which then
makes it EXTREMELY difficult to use any other startup system.

It's not that it's superior, it's that Poettering has deliberately used
poor programming practices (such as breaking the principle of interchangeability)
to lock-in systemd, regardless of whether it is actually wanted or chosen
on the basis of merit, or not.

As I said before... this is VANDALISM.

Did you even bother to read http://ewontfix.com/14/ and http://ewontfix.com/15/ ???