[mdlug] Consequences of 'noacpi'?

Adam Tauno Williams awilliam at whitemice.org
Fri Mar 16 07:14:59 EDT 2012


On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 13:04 -0400, Mat Enders wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis00 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > This is one reason why I like opensuse
> Linus disagrees with you
> https://plus.google.com/102150693225130002912/posts/1vyfmNCYpi5

That's OK, I have no problem disagreeing with Linux on desktop/UI issues
[he being a guy who has repeatedly said he doesn't use desktop
applications].

(a) He talks about needing root access to configure wireless access /
network.  I just don't experience that one.  Probably my install
inherited my connections from the previous version.  But the next
generation of NetworkManager is leaps-and-bounds aheads of the current
generation so all the NM haters will have to move on to hating something
else [although, again, NM has always worked reliably for me - except in
cases where I was deliberately doing something wierd].  There is a
legitimate bug/feature edge here, and his post pretty much rests exactly
on the line, and now we are on the other side.

(b) I'm ambivalent about the timezone issue.  There are security issues
related to time / time-zone,  so in one sense I understand.  But how
often does a user change their time zone?  How UNIX manages time zones
makes it even worse - and it isn't *really* possible to change the
timezone on a running system since a process reads the timezone when it
starts and uses that for it's lifetime.  Changing timezones on a running
system can result in wierd stuff where one service is in one time zone
and the other component on the d-bus is in a different time zone.  But
this is such an edge case I doubt it is worth worrying about.  

(c) The printer thing seems like a PolicyKit issue.  And that policy was
already being worked on before this post.  It is puzzling because -
   (1) Adding a USB printer just-works - no pop-up, no prompt.
   (2) Printers available via network browse just-work - no pop-up, no
prompt
   (3) This issue only arises when you add some other kind of printer or
one that requires custom configuration [like a specific PPD file].

Personally I find it kind of depressing that a tech-luminary makes posts
that are little better than rants.  How about a specific description of
the problem?  It is *OK* if you still don't like it but the post seems
really off-the-cuff for somebody who knows everyone is going to get
their panties wadded up over everything he says.

And, of course, neither adding a printer or adding a network is possible
on Windows without Administrator credentials or policy adjustment;  so 6
of one, half dozen of the other.

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