[mdlug] Microsoft says Android infringes on its patents

[Rich Elswick]

Flame war!

On 4/29/10, Bob Dion <rmdion at gmail.com> wrote:
> MS patents every thing, doesn't mean they own it or invented it. Which
> leaves everyone else to either pay up or spend millions to prove the
> patent invalid.
>
> One only has to look as far back and the i4i suit to know MS has no
> respect for IP of others.
>
> On 04/29/2010 12:46 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
>> On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 13:32 -0400, Jacob Todd wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 09:50:44AM -0500, Bob Dion wrote:
>>>> "Investment"[?] You mean stealing.
>>> What have MS stolen?
>>
>> Nothing; if they hold the patent then they own it.  You can't steal from
>> yourself.
>>
>> I don't understand why people in FOSS land get so worked up about these
>> [apparently randomly choosing one to have a fit about].  Especially the
>> Novell / Microsoft patent deal - what a @*&^*$ to-do about nothing.
>> Tech companies sign these kind of agreements every day;  it is how
>> business is done until the legislature changes it.
>>
>> Does Android violate any M$ patents?  Without a doubt, one doesn't even
>> have to look.  It certainly violates patents from dozens of other
>> organizations as well.  So these organizations all sign agreements with
>> each other to cover their hindquarters from the potential costs.  And M$
>> signs such agreements with IBM as undoubtedly M$ tech violates lots of
>> IBM patents [who holds more patents than anybody]
>>
>> I personally wonder what is more annoying:  software patents or software
>> patent FUD as perpetrated by
>> call-themselves-FOSS-advocates-but-are-really-just-malcontents.
>>
>> <quote
>> source="http://www.jprl.com/Blog/archive/development/mono/2009/Jan-19.html">
>> What I find even "funnier" is that Microsoft supposedly holds a number
>> of patents in a number of areas frequently used by open-source projects,
>> such as HTML, CSS, C++, XML, and others. So why don't we ever see any
>> suggestions to avoid these technologies because the Big Bad Microsoft
>> might sue?</quote>
>>
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