[mdlug] Router is giving up on routing let alone working

[Aaron Kulkis]

Robert Adkins wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mdlug-bounces at mdlug.org 
>> [mailto:mdlug-bounces at mdlug.org] On Behalf Of Garry Stahl
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:09 AM
>> To: MDLUG's Main discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [mdlug] Router is giving up on routing let alone working
>>
>> Robert Adkins wrote:
>>>   I keep virtually all of our electronics on voltage 
>> regulating devices.
>>> They aren't cheap, but they are less expensive than having 
>> to replace 
>>> the devices plugged into them.
>>>   
>> UPS is your friend.  I find them cheaper than new computers.
>>
>> I have an 80 year old house.  Even if the wiring in this room 
>> and the main panel are much newer.  (Main panel 2003, wiring 
>> 2003 2008)  It was not always the case.  I consider the 
>> devices cheap insurance.
>>
>> HOWEVER, make sure you buy enough UPS.  You need one whose 
>> wattage is rated above your computer's draw power.  They put 
>> the wattage on the box, but not in plain sight.  Buying the 
>> cheapest UPS may cost you a lot more than you bargained for.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Garry  AKA  --Phoenix--  Rising above the Flames.
>>
> 
>   I absolutely agree.
> 
>   We have an 80+ year old house. We had all of the old wiring torn out and
> replaced before moving in. There were some seriously scary wiring going on
> in that house that was not only unsafe... Well, it was just incredibly
> unsafe.
> 
>   All the wiring is brand new, as of last year.
> 
>   The next steps I would like to take is have a voltage regulating system
> put in at the box (Very not cheap) and maybe one of those natural gas
> operating backup generators. Granted, if I can figure out how much wind

You could do what they do in the electrical engineering building
at Purdue... the incoming AC drives a 3-phase electric motor,
which drives an AC generator....with a very large flywheel in the mix.

These keeps the high voltage lab (10,000 V) from getting spikes
which would easily go over 1 MV due to the transformer step-ups.

With good bearings, this is quiet enough that I never suspected
such a thing until I actually saw it in the basement.

The only thing needed are some big knife-switches on the
house (load) [side that are kept in place by presence of
current], so that if the power goes out, you can
spin up the flywheel before the generator (and hence the
motor) sees the load from the refrigerator and other
heavy motors.

Might not be cheap initially, but the output is perfectly
sinusoidal, and the equipment lifetime is measured in
decades or longer -- especially if you use brushless
motors and generators (i.e. magnets are in the rotors,
not the housing [stator]).

> actually blows through my neighborhood, I'm considering installing some of
> those micro wind turbines that are made out in the Grand Rapids area.
> 

Good luck on recouping your cost on that.

The European experience with wind generation of electricity
is that material and maintenance costs exceeded the electricity
produced.

>   Lot's of ideas, just bound by financial consideration.