[mdlug] What to give a Software Programmer interested in Linux

[Aaron Kulkis]

Peter Bart wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:33:52 -0500
> Aaron Kulkis <akulkis3 at hotpop.com> wrote:
> 
>> Richard Herrell wrote:
>>> Yes, give him an emacs manual.  That way, he can burn it and keep
>>> warm while learning vi.   :)
>>>
>>> Just kidding.  A newbie from Windows should probably start using a
>>> total IDE.  Eclipse supports Java and C++.
>> Why encourage a pattern of living in a "gilded cage"?
>>
>> Real programmer's aren't reliant on an IDE.
>>
>> The only reason IDE's were invented is because the command
>> line was (and remains) so utterly underpowered in Windows.
>>
>> Really... teaching him or her to learn emacs or vi is MUCH
>> more useful.
>>
>>> Also, if the Windows programmer knows C# / .NET, he/she should
>>> check out Mono (C# for Linux) and try the Monodevelop IDE.
> 
> 	Actually it gets much more interesting, he's also supposed to
> learn Perl. At any rate I dropped off my little care package, on the
> laptop he found the terminal right away. 
> 	On that note, on his company supplied laptop he's not allowed
> to load anything. Ditto for the customer supplied laptop. Not even in a
> virtual machine, under threat of dismissal! Yet he's supposed
> to.........??? I could see where even a live cd  would be
> misconstrued. Seems like the perfect arguement for a true root/user
> system!

With idiotic rules like that, I'd find a new company
to work for.  If they're too dumb to realize that on
a Linux machine, non-root users can safely run just
about everything, then they're going to be WAY too
aggravating to work for.