[mdlug] What to give a Software Programmer interested in Linux

[Peter Bart]

On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:33:52 -0500
Aaron Kulkis <akulkis3 at hotpop.com> wrote:

> Richard Herrell wrote:
> > Yes, give him an emacs manual.  That way, he can burn it and keep
> > warm while learning vi.   :)
> > 
> > Just kidding.  A newbie from Windows should probably start using a
> > total IDE.  Eclipse supports Java and C++.
> 
> Why encourage a pattern of living in a "gilded cage"?
> 
> Real programmer's aren't reliant on an IDE.
> 
> The only reason IDE's were invented is because the command
> line was (and remains) so utterly underpowered in Windows.
> 
> Really... teaching him or her to learn emacs or vi is MUCH
> more useful.
> 
> > Also, if the Windows programmer knows C# / .NET, he/she should
> > check out Mono (C# for Linux) and try the Monodevelop IDE.

	Actually it gets much more interesting, he's also supposed to
learn Perl. At any rate I dropped off my little care package, on the
laptop he found the terminal right away. 
	On that note, on his company supplied laptop he's not allowed
to load anything. Ditto for the customer supplied laptop. Not even in a
virtual machine, under threat of dismissal! Yet he's supposed
to.........??? I could see where even a live cd  would be
misconstrued. Seems like the perfect arguement for a true root/user
system!

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