[mdlug-discuss] health care (was: Iraq stuff again)

[allen]

Raymond Ingles wrote:
> On 3/26/07, Wolfger <wolfger at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> On 3/26/07, allen <amajorov at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>     
>>> Many's the time I've asked "if socialized medicine is a
>>> disaster everywhere it's been tried why will it work in America?"
>>>
>>>       
>> The answer, of course, is "if it's a disaster everywhere else, then it
>> probably won't work in America". Of course, there's that "if" in the front,
>> which I believe is a false presupposition. If socialized medicine truly is a
>> disaster everywhere it's been tried, then why do so many countries keep it?
>>     
>
>  Perhaps they're just a *different* disaster than what we have here:
>
> http://www.faultline.org/place/toad/archive/003113.html
> http://www.faultline.org/place/toad/archive/003114.html
> http://pandagon.net/2007/03/14/i-thought-donated-meant-free/
>
>   
Right back atcha:

http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/175/8/861
http://santaclausfund.ca/News/article/181333
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/070312/health/health_drs_wait_times_liability

Notice, I didn't even include any of the coverage of Walter Reed.
>> I think the answer is that it's *not* a disaster everywhere it's been tried.
>>     
>
>  Perhaps there are lessons to be extracted from how things are done
> elsewhere that could be applied here, even if the entire system
> wouldn't work?
>   
I'm all ears but I don't think you'll have much luck.

If it's definable as a "commons", which socialized medicine certainly 
is, tragedy is merely a matter of time.

Allen