[mdlug] Big brother gives M$ a 10 out of 10

[Gib]

Thank you for the link to the video.  I like videos like this.

I tried to get Penguicon to record more of the presentations a decade ago.
It became too difficult. They required that the everyone agree to be
recorded.

Videos:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gibnichols+penguicon

On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:38 PM Ron / BCLUG <admin at bclug.ca> wrote:

> Jonathan Billings wrote on 2024-05-23 13:43:
>
> >>> However, the encroachment of systemd is beginning to threaten
> >>> this OS model.
> >>>
> >> Oh, look at that, you had the same thought
> >
> > I’m curious, how does systemd threaten that OS model?
>
> It doesn't.
>
>
> I've shared this excellent presentation from linux.conf.au called "The
> Tragedy of systemd", by Benno Rice - a FreeBSD developer, in which he
> debunks a lot of claims against it and even suggests BSD ought to have
> something similar (services management system):
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo
>
>
> I don't think I have ever heard someone make a claim against systemd
> that hasn't been addressed in that video.
>
>
> Claims I have seen, like "systemd is a marketing scheme", and "all the
> idiots behind systemd came from Windoze [sic]" are not worth addressing.
>
>
> The claim that it's too complicated is quite subjective, and on a list
> dedicated to an advanced computer topics is kinda odd.
>
> Pushing technology to make it easier to do more complicated tasks seems
> the essence of tech (to me).
>
>
> As for this:
>
>  > My rebuttal is that nobody needs that kind of complexity.
>
> I'm pretty sure one doesn't get to claim "nobody needs" unless you've
> surveyed "everybody".  "I don't need" ≠ "nobody needs".
>
>
>
>
> Basically, there seems to be a form of digital Amish thinking going on:
> "tech was best back at $time and anything afterwards is too complicated
> / I don't need it so shouldn't exist / I don't wanna learn it".
>
>
> It's similar to "music was best when $teenager and everything after sucks".
>
>
> Also, a dash of cynicism masquerading as wisdom, couched in late stage
> Slashdot talking points.
>
>
> Still waiting to hear a good-faith argument against systemd that deals
> with the fact that Canonical and RedHat were *both* looking for a new
> services management system (Canonical with Upstart, which Suse and
> RedHat bundled briefly), strongly indicating some need for such a tool.
>
>
> My 2¢
>
> rb
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