[mdlug] Looking for IPv6 presenter for LUGWASH
Jay Nugent
jjn at nuge.com
Fri Jan 20 17:36:28 EST 2012
Greets,
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012, Michael Mol wrote:
>> I think you mean "static" IP address.
>
> No, I mean public IPv4 address. As in, publicly routeable. I'm on
> Comcast residential, so DHCP, but I have a publicly routable IPv4
> address (71.205.113.62, at the moment). It just changes every few
> weeks.
Yes, exactly. STATIC publicly routable, non-RFC1918 address. A.k.a.
'static'. As opposed to a 'dynamic' publicly routable non-RFC1918 address
that changes every few weeks. I currently have TWO /25 blocks from my
ISP (216.144.208/25 and 63.215.167/25). I *can* live with a lot less
so I am hoping to negotiate with the new ISP for a block of 32 addrs.
And just because your address is served up via DHCP doesn't mean that
it cannot be 'static' (never changing). We did that all the time with
each of the ISP's that I have done consulting work for (half dozen or so
of them, so far).
> My understanding of ADSL is that non-primary* ADSL providers have
> their traffic routed through the primary's network on a tagged vlan,
> until it comes out at the ISP's POP. IIRC, I did find an ADSL provider
> in Seattle which could give me (in Grand Rapids) native IPv6, but my
> packets would be bouncing across the country.
Coolness!
> * Don't know the exact term, sorry. Primary being the physical owner,
> non-primary being the ones who lease.
In brief, for those on the list whom have ever wondered:
The DSL signal is carried over the copper pair to the telephone Central
Office where it is atteched to a specific physical port on a DSLAM. The
DSLAM *may* belong to the Telco, or it *may* belong to a provider. But
typically the Telco owns them and leases space. ISP's subscribe to lease
space on several DSLAMS in different Central Offices (CO) within a LATA or
across a specific geographic region. Some ISP's only support a small
number of CO's, others lease DSLAM space across the entire state or
country.
The DSLAM is configured to pass your traffic using L2TP (layer 2
Transport Layer) packets across an ATM (Asynchronous Transport) "cloud".
THE DSLAM config states that your physical 'port' belongs to 'X' ISP, what
the maximum allowed speed will be (1.5 down by 768k up), and routes the
packets accordingly. Each ISP (TelnetWW, Provide.net, DigitalRealm.com,
WWnet, AT&T, etc.) subscribe to a connection off of this ATM cloud to
collect the traffic from their subscribers.
The L2TP packets come accross the ATM cloud into the ISP's
"concentrator" (typically a large Cisco router) where the connection is
then authenticated using RADIUS. The RADIUS config tells the concentrator
where these packets may flow (to private VPN, like AOL) or should they be
allowed to reach the public Internet. RADIUS also defines if the customer
is 'dynamic' or 'static', and how large that static block of addresses is
supposed to be.
Well, that's it in a nutshell. There are many more details involved,
but this gives a general idea how the process works.
Enjoy!
--- Jay Nugent
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