[mdlug] Open source MySQL - MySQL Creator: Oracle to Purchase Sun which Owns M ySQL

[David Lane]

Lets say wel build a wed site, widget_of_Every_flavor.com. With Linux Apache Mysql Php resources,  and we do 250,000 in the first year and another 125,000, the the first quarter of the next year and contenue to grow. 

Oracle would love to get us in one of there lower end agreements, but it would make more business since to stay with Mysql. Even though you may beable to afford it the migration costs. And Starting off with Oracle would have been cost prohibitive. I have been IT shops that were Oracle where there were MySql was the data base of choice because Oracle ment more fees, or a "Deeper" relationship. 

I dont think the princibles would want to abandon the cash cow that MySQL built. 

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There was a time where in my case schools were forced to change to Oracle and in the end created a bigger cost of ownership. It was fasionable to say We are switching to Oracle.  I support Education Admin software, and when some of the schools switched they were in for more than they ever dreamed.

So, Yes MySQL is atleast an indirect compatiting database. 


David C. Lane


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From: Aaron Kulkis <akulkis00 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [mdlug] Open source MySQL - MySQL Creator: Oracle to Purchase Sun which Owns M ySQL

David Lane wrote:

>> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>> 
>> Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 12:57 +0000, gib at juno.com wrote:
>>>> MySQL Creator: Oracle to Purchase Sun which Owns MySQL.
>>>> " . . . Michael "Monty" Widenius, the creator of MySQL, is asking you urgently to help save MySQL from Oracle's clutches".
>>>> http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-saving-mysql.html
>>> Use PostgreSQL and forget about all this, mostly political and
>>> shamelessly marketroidish, stuff.
>>>
>>> And get a better DB too.
>>>
>>> <http://www.postgresql.org/>
>> 
>> I used to be a fence-sitter, but now I'm leaning to postgres.
>> MySQL was very attractive a couple of years ago, enough so that
>> I bought the 1000-ish page tutorial in printed form.
>> 
>> But then they pulled out one of the most useful sub-engines
>> (IIRC it was InnoDB) for both general use and my intended
>> purposes.
>> 
>> Selling to Sun made me leery.  And now this...I'm treating
>> MySQL as radioactive until Monty starts acting like an idiot
                                    ^^^^^^
                                s/starts/stops

>> [With apologies to idiots everywhere].
>
> MySQL was easy to pick up.  As a programmer I did not have
> the money or time to go to a full blown course and certification.
>                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

#1

> I never had problems with on Windows or Linux. I even had
> to download the source for compilation on a version of linux
> that did not have it.  and all of that with out formal training.
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

#2

> 
> If Oracle changes MySQL in a way that makes it Not the great
> opensource resource that it is YES I will look for a new
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> favorite Database.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

#3

> 
> And Write Oracle and tell them why. Other wise it is a
> worthless effort.
>

David, you just gave three reasons for Oracle to either hobble,
impede, slow down or halt development of MySQL to the point where
eventually, at some future date, it viewed as a dinosaur which
failed to keep up with the times.

MySQL is not consistent with Oracle's core business --
it knocks the feet out from underneath their lower-tier
products.  The fact that you can learn MySQL without
paying money which gets channeled to Oracle is also
a loss for Oracle.

Not one thing that you mentioned benefits Oracle's
bottom line in any way.  In fact, everything you mentioned
is neutral to HARMFUL (depending vantage point) to
Oracle's revenue stream.

Telling Oracle what you just told us is, more than likely,
counterproductive, unless they intend to use MySQL as a
loss-leader (and there is zero indication of that).

Sun started giving away Solaris as a loss-leader to
induce people to buy sparc-based machines (if you
pay the big bucks, you get the big performance).
Maybe I'm just stupid, but I don't see any possible way
that MySQL can be used to draw customers to Oracle's
money-making products.
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