[mdlug] Open source MySQL - MySQL Creator: Oracle to Purchase Sun which Owns M ySQL

[Aaron Kulkis]

Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 10:08 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>> David Lane wrote:
>>> Has it been done?
>>>
>>> If so Who?
>>>
>>> It is possable that Oracle is trying to be an IBM I think one stratigy is to recaptiure their market share.
>>>
>>> David C. Lane
>>>
>> Personally, I don't know how Oracle can be allowed to buy
>> Sun AND KEEP MySQL without creating a legal paradox.
> 
> What Paradox?  There are numerous databases on the market: PostgreSQL,
> Firebird, Paradox, Oracle, Informix, DB2, Microsoft SQL Server, etc...
> 
> And Sun?  I wouldn't consider them terribly relevant these days.  Oracle
> will own Java. Ok, Microsoft owns .NET.  And IBM has a Java
> implementation.
> 
>> It's in Oracle's financial best interest for MySQL to be
>> as worthless as possible as compared to Oracle's other
>> offerings.  As a company listed on the stock exchanges, Oracle's
>> officers are LEGALLY required to try to make as much money as
>> possible, 
> 
> Please, didn't the recent shinanigans of the financial companies, and
> decades of GM, finally put this silliness the rest?  [Not to mention Sun
> Microsystems!]  A companies officers are entirely free to ram it
> straight into the ground, act like drunken frat-boys, and moon the
> shareholders. 
> 
I agree with you fully.  Although the financial shenanigans
with regard to the collapse of mortgage residuals, which triggered
the rest of the crises, all rests FULLY with the rampant chicanery
and outright fraud at Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac.  And those who
were in charge (Franklin Raines, and Jamie Gorelick, of "FBI/CIA
wall-of-separation" infamy which directly lead to the failure to
prevent 9/11) who paid themselves several dozens of millions in
bonuses based on fraudulent accounting deserve to be rotting in
a solitiry confinement.  But since their actions helped propel
into power the current administration (and covered up the tracks
of the ACORN lawsuits against banks which started the whole process),
I'm not holding my breath.

As for GM... a lot of execs did some damned stupid things,
knowing full well that they would be long gone, maybe even 
close to death (if not already past it) before the consequences
came to bear.  Colluding with the equally corrupt UAW leadership
by signing onto utterly ridiculous demands.  Unfortunately,
statutes of limitations prevent stockholders from seeking payback
in the form of criminal charges.  I can't believe that there
weren't some SERIOUS violations of SEC law in which GM was
painting a rosy future without reflecting the tremendous
unfunded liabilities of a million retirees all collecting
pay (and health insurance in the most expensive age brackets!)
while contributing zero to the bottom line (because, hey
they're retired!)