[mdlug] Facebook was Re: Google Wave invites

Philip Morales philipmorales at gmail.com
Tue Dec 15 09:47:44 EST 2009


well, to each his own.

cheers!

On 12/15/2009 05:53 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 21:55 -0500, Philip Morales wrote:
>    
>> if you can go back in time, right before social sites started becoming
>> popular, would you make one yourself? knowing already that it'll make
>> you money and give you fame at the same time?
>>      
> There is [was] no guarantee of that;  there were hundreds, if not
> thousands, of these sites.  Today two [FB&  MySpace] have prominence
> plus a few lingering strays and a couple of niche slots [linked-in].
> Remember the dot-com bubble? Pop!  I did talk to a couple .com companies
> about employment - to my knowledge they are gone.
>
>    
>> having such a mindset about famed social sites would take you nowhere,
>>      
> Having this mindset has led me to continuous employment at an
> interesting job with enjoyable co-workers.  I guess if that is
> nowhere....
>
>    
>> wouldn't it be better if you'd think about how they made money from such
>> sites and how you can apply that to what you're doing right now or even
>> what you like to do?
>>      
> Hours spent pitching to venture capitalists....  while knowing what is
> really a steaming pile of PHP muck with serious scalability and security
> issues [which at least the early versions of FB where].  I think I'd
> rather chew glass.
>
>    
>> jealousy is the greatest form of flattery.
>>      
> Disagree,  jealousy and covetousness is a symptom of a petty and
> ungenerous mind.
>
>    
>> Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
>>      
>>> On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 11:19 -0500, Peter Bart wrote:
>>>        
>>>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:06:32 -0500
>>>> Adam Tauno Williams<awilliam at opengroupware.us>  wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>> On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 10:44 -0500, Peter Bart wrote:
>>>>>            
>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:07:50 +0100
>>>>>> Rich Elswick<painbank at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> Farmville seems popular now.
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>> Still Facebook. FWIW I think ranks as the most
>>>>>> useless !"@#¥^~%$&*?)(/\ ever. Sorry
>>>>>>              
>>>>> Yea, "popular" and "useful"/"productive" are not equivalent.
>>>>>            
>>>> 	Now, why are the owners of such "popular" time wasters multi
>>>> millionaires while so many very useful application developers
>>>> languish?  Not that everything in life must be usefull and productive,
>>>>          
>>> Same reason actors, or musicians, or all other manner of useless people
>>> get paid more than actually important people.
>>> People are more willing to pay for something they like over something
>>> they use.  Don't even get me started. :)
>>> One of the reasons I resigned myself to non-millionare status a long
>>> time ago. :)  None of these things are interesting.  There is nothing
>>> new or novel about FB.  What it does is nothing beyond what a BBS did
>>> ages ago.  Coding FB would be *boring*!  It is just a matter of
>>> right-place-right-time, there were many FBs before FB and many at the
>>> same time as FB that have all been relegated to the dust-bin.  What
>>> annoys me most is the founders of FB, and like sites, are heralded as
>>> 'innovators'.  Bogus,  they were the equivalent of lottery ticket
>>> holders.  They didn't create anything new.  Society was ready to plunge
>>> into a new [to them] form of media muck and FB was in the line-up of
>>> candidates (as was friendster, myspace, etc...)
>>>        
>>>>   but some of these things just complicate my life! If one of these so
>>>> called "applications" doesn't perform as expected it's immediately the
>>>> computers fault. Which then becomes my problem, even if it's at the
>>>> very rock bottom of my list. I wonder sometimes whether some of the
>>>> slowness; of these applications; is due to them not being able to
>>>> collect the same amount of information as from a Windows system.
>>>>          
>>> Dunno,  I use FB only from openSUSE/GNOME/Firefox and performance seems
>>> very good.  It is a rather chunky and JS heavy interface;  and rather
>>> badly coded according the web devs I know [and respect, which is a small
>>> subset of web devs].
>>>        
>>>>> Most of the social-networking hype, is just that: hype;  a passing
>>>>> fad. Yep, I'm a geek who works in IT, and I mean that.
>>>>>            
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