[mdlug] ASSP update...

Michael ORourke mrorourke at earthlink.net
Tue Jan 22 01:39:08 EST 2008


Once you go live with ASSP, do you need to set a value to "spamSubject"?  Or 
should it just block the messages and not deliver them?
I'm a little unsure if I have the configuration set correctly.

-Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Thuemmel" <ldaphelp at thuemmel.com>
To: "MDLUG's Main discussion list" <mdlug at mdlug.org>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [mdlug] ASSP update...


> Carl T. Miller wrote:
>> Mark Thuemmel wrote:
>>> ASSP has a cronjob that updates once a day.  I was manually running the
>>> update if I moved a bunch of files around, but these days it is usually
>>> just one or two a month so I don't bother anymore.
>>
>> I forgot to mention that I run a cron job that does several things.
>> It checks to see if users have moved any messages to a folder named
>> "spam" and processes the messages.  It checks how many files are in
>> each of the folders for okmail and spam and deletes the oldest ones
>> if there are too many.  It also rebuilds the spam database.  I run
>> this from 1 to 6 times an hour, depending on the system.
>>
>> I also do not let the messages get saved with a number.  That makes
>> the subject become the name of the file.  That way I can ls -T to
>> see the recent newcomers to okmail and spam and then move any that
>> are misidentified.
>
> You must have a powerful server.  I'm running one server on a p550 512mb
> and it takes a while and puts a load on it to rebuild the databases.
> I'm once a day and early in the morning before users wake up.
>
> You are right abuout cleaning up olders files.  I have been waiting
> until the spam rebuld takes forever and then running a find/xargs
> command to clean up baised on age when necessary.  About every 3 months
> on my hard drive.  I think last time I set it to run every day and
> delete if over 180 days old.  Drive has not been full lately and the
> rebuild is finished before users get on.
>
> I'd think it would be better to run the spam/notspam rebuild frequently
> to keep the Bayesian fresh, but in the grand scheme of things, in the
> long run, Bayesian already knows most all the tricks is my experience.
> The more properly your corpus is categorized and the number of examples,
> the better.
>
> I would repeat, the biggest thing I did with ASSP to stop spam was
> enable the greylist/delaying for 5 minutes.  I had this before with just
> Postfix, but left it off while training ASSP.  Was very noticeable in
> the reduction of spammers that will actually try again after 5 minutes.
>  I know it sucks to have to wait for strangers to email you, but having
> my users email them first whitelists them, so no problem unless the
> people sending you email don't know what email address they are using to
> send mail to you.  For them, I say wait.  Email is not considered time
> sensitive in my world for strangers.
>
>
> I was curious why the ls -T.  My man page says -T is expand tabs and
> when I literally type in ls -T I get an error on my Ubuntu 7.10 box.
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