[mdlug] What Intel Giveth, Microsoft Taketh Away

Aaron Kulkis akulkis3 at hotpop.com
Mon Nov 19 14:56:25 EST 2007


Robert Adkins wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mdlug-bounces at mdlug.org 
>> [mailto:mdlug-bounces at mdlug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Hurley
>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:05 AM
>> To: mdlug at mdlug.org
>> Cc: linux-user at egr.msu.edu; The WFTL LUG
>> Subject: Re: [mdlug] What Intel Giveth, Microsoft Taketh Away
>>
>> On Saturday 17 November 2007, Michael Rudas wrote:
>>> LOL
>>>
>>> I mention this kind of thing on a Linux list because most peoples'
>>> perceptions of what a computer IS are so heavily influence by 
>>> Microsoft software, so it impacts us all -- and MS has become an 
>>> anchor, dragging all computer users to the briny depths of Trojans, 
>>> spyware, and wasted computer power...
>>>
>>> "Case in point: Microsoft Office 2007 which, when deployed 
>> on Windows  
>>> Vista, consumes over 12x as much memory and nearly 3x as much  
>>> processing power as the version that graced PCs just 7 short 
>> years ago  
>>> (Office 2000)."
>>>
>>> <http://exo-blog.blogspot.com/2007/09/what-intel-giveth-micro
>> soft-taket
>>> h-aw
>>> ay.html>
>> I wonder how many X memory and processing power KDE or GNOME 
>> system using Star/Open Office has increased since 2000. 
>> Bloatware isn't a MS-only phenomenon.
>>
>> --
>> Brian Hurley
>> Detroit Industrial Underground
>> www.detroitindustrial.org
>>
> 
> 	I'm taking a DBA course in which we are using Oracle 10g running on
> a VMWare Player ran Windows Server 2003.
> 
> 	The classroom is decked out with brand spanking new dual-core
> workstations with 1GB of RAM, Windows Vista and all other other latest bells
> and whistles. The default setup on these machines are pretty lean and thus
> should run pretty mean.
> 
> 	As a test for personal interest, I upgrade the HD on my laptop for
> the space, tossed OpenSuSe 10.3 and VMWare Player and pulled up the VM
> Windows 2003 Server. While hardly a rigorous scientific test, I can say that
> the VM (on my single core 4+ year old laptop, also with 1GB of RAM) performs
> roughly 3 times faster under OpenSuSe 10.3 than is does under Windows Vista
> on a brand spanking new dual-core system. (Not that this should matter, both
> the laptop and the workstation at the school are Dell systems.)
> 
> 	Oracle 10g uses a number of Java programs for GUI access to the DBMS
> and under OpenSuSe10.3, those open up within 30 seconds. Under the VM on
> WinVista, they can take upwards of 3 minutes to launch.
> 
> 	I am running KDE as my primary desktop and while I was also running
> OpenOffice2.x while running the VM to cut/paste elements into the VM that
> were needed for populating a table within the DB and also to answer the
> provided questions for the lab work.
> 
> 	Anyway, the sigficant difference in bloat between Microsoft products
> and Open Source products has a great deal more to do with the underlying
> development model than anything else.
> 
> 	Open Source software isn't designed to force users into a corner by
> tying everything together in a way that makes picking and choosing elements
> to run difficult to impossible. Open Source software is very modular,
> OpenOffice, for example, doesn't give a rat's behind what you are running it
> on top of. It isn't looking for secret hooks in the file browser, it isn't
> seeking special options specific to it buried within the kernel, it just
> does it's job, which is to run as an office application suite.
> 
> 	Microsoft software, as found in the "Findings of Fact" from the
> trial that convicted them of abusing monopoly powers, is written with secret
> hooks and undocumented elements in otherwise completely unrelated libraries
> to tie all of their software together. This has added unnecssary complexity
> to the software development process.
> 
> 	As myself and many others have speculated, since the "Findings of
> Fact" and prior to that documents existnece, this development model was
> destined to bite Microsoft on the ass harder then anything. It appears, with
> Windows Vista, that this is happening.
> 
> 	Perhaps the only interesting thing to come out of the Vista
> development process is that Microsoft is "seeing the light" and with their
> next edition of Windows has been currently claiming to be following a
> significantly more modular design model. From what I have seen, they are
> even going so far as to claim that this development model is new and novel.
> As if the entire history of the development of UNIX and Linux as well as
> many other truly modular development models simply never existed.

Well, of course.  At Microsoft's marketing offices, the
ONLY computing which has ever existed is the MS platforms.

On a somewhat related note, MS never claims that they are
selling the most powerful OS -- **ONLY** that they are
selling the most powerful version of Windows.  Same for
all of their other products.


> 
> 	Sorry for rambling,
> 	Rob
> 
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