<div>For Heat it might be. I have not seen any data on Heat disapation between AMD and Intel.</div> <div> </div> <div>I do know that the Motorola Power PC RISC chip was great, it did not use as much heat.</div> <div> </div> <div>I was almost and jokingly looking at <FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Liquid cooling unit, LOL</FONT></div> <div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT> </div> <div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>David </FONT></div> <div> </div> <div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT> </div> <div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT> </div> <div><BR><B><I>Robert Adkins <radkins@impelind.com></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">My issue had nothing to do with the CPU Fan. The CPU Fan that came with <BR>the system was perfect.<BR><BR>It was the Northbridge Chip fan/heatsink that wasn't up to the task of
<BR>properly keeping the motherboard chips cool enough to operate. The <BR>Northbridge can be read about here: <BR><HTTP: Northbridge_%28computing%29 wiki en.wikipedia.org><BR><BR>I'm also running AMD CPUs, not that it is relevant to the discussion.<BR><BR>-Rob<BR><BR><BR>-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: Re:[mdlug] System Build Saga<BR>From: David Lane <DCL400M@YAHOO.COM><BR>To: MDLUG's Main discussion list <MDLUG@MDLUG.ORG><BR>Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:43:25 AM<BR>> Are you using the Stock Intel (if it is intel) cooling fan. Because in <BR>> this build I baught a diffetent cpu fan. And will replace all the <BR>> other stock Intel fans because they dont always snap all the way then <BR>> later it wiggles loose and you are suffering heat shutdowns.<BR>> <BR>> David<BR>><BR>> */Robert Adkins <RADKINS@IMPELIND.COM>/* wrote:<BR>><BR>> Personally, I prefer ASUS and maybe MSI products.<BR>><BR>> My current "main rig"
originally had an MSI board. They did a<BR>> piss-poor<BR>> job of designing the cooling system on the mainboard. I was suffering<BR>> from a series of heat related shutdowns. In the end, it turned out<BR>> that<BR>> the entire problem was related to the Northbridge chip overheating<BR>> something fierce.<BR>><BR>> Right now, I have the extra guts to rebuild a second PC. I just<BR>> need to<BR>> fabricate or replace the entire mainboard chip cooling system to<BR>> have it<BR>> run properly...<BR>><BR>> The ASUS Board I replaced it with has been operating awesomely.<BR>><BR>> -Rob<BR>><BR>><BR>> -------- Original Message --------<BR>> Subject: Re:[mdlug] System Build Saga<BR>> From: David Lane<BR>> To: MDLUG's Main discussion list<BR>> Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:54:10 AM<BR>> > Now I'm a fan of MSI ans ASUS (This is the only mother board<BR>> that has<BR>> > the nifty little sticker
you can put in the front of your case. LOL)<BR>> ><BR>> > */"Morris, Tim" /* wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > Some SATA controllers are a pain in the A**. Some boards have<BR>> > options to set a SATA controller as an AHCI controller, or to<BR>> > emulate an old IDE controller. Either of those options (if the<BR>> > board had them) might have worked in your case. Obviously, setting<BR>> > them to emulate an IDE controller isn't such a great idea, but<BR>> > from what I can tell the only thing you lose by setting them to<BR>> > AHCI is the RAID functionality (if it even has it). I could be<BR>> > wrong...<BR>> ><BR>> > For the record, I don't like ECS boards either. I have had 2, one<BR>> > still works (although the USB died) and the other died completely<BR>> > after 3 months. But hey, they were cheap.<BR>> ><BR>> > -- Tim Morris - UGS PLM Software<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> > *From:* mdlug-bounces@mdlug.org [mailto:mdlug-bounces@mdlug.org]<BR>> > *On Behalf Of *David Lane<BR>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:30 AM<BR>> > *To:* MDLUG's Main discussion list<BR>> > *Subject:* Re: [mdlug] System Build Saga<BR>> ><BR>> > I will admit I misspoke about ECS being an "OFF" Bran. It looks<BR>> > like it will be a while until I build another system.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > */Michael Rudas /* wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > On 7/10/07, David Lane wrote:<BR>> > > Recently there was a sale at an electronics store that when<BR>> > I bought a<BR>> > > certain CPU I got a free mother board, that was the<BR>> > beginning of my problems.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > I have built a few (3 to be specific) systems in the so my<BR>> > 4th build
would<BR>> > > be a piece of cake. WRONG, the off brand mother board was<BR>> > the problem. The<BR>> > > motherboard that did NOT work was an "ECS" board.<BR>> ><BR>> > I'm sorry to hear that you had problems, but I must point out<BR>> > two things:<BR>> ><BR>> > 1. ECS is not an "off" brand. The manufacturer is FIC, the world's<BR>> > largest motherboard maker. They also make the PCChips brand, among<BR>> > others. Just because YOU haven't heard of them doesn't make them<BR>> > unknown.<BR>> > 2. A BIOS update will probably cure the problem-- motherboards, by<BR>> > their very nature, MUST be OS-agnostic, so a board that won't run<BR>> > Linux usually just needs a BIOS re-flash, or simpler still, a BIOS<BR>> > reset-- problems which can happen with ANY brand of mobo,<BR>> > believe me.<BR>> > Did you Google the brand and model, by the way?<BR>> ><BR>> >
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