[mdlug-discuss] [mdlug] OT - IR jamming

[Ingles, Raymond]

> From: Aaron Kulkis

> >  Not a single part of that is true. I love my country too much to accept it making
> > such a stupid, reprehensible, and self-defeating mistake it's doing now. More, I have
> > said, as clearly as humanly possible, that even torture is fine for terrorists - but
> > (a) we need a clear policy in place to first make sure that they *are* terrorists,
> > and (b) we need to make sure that the benefit we expect to get from the torture
> > outweighs the political and diplomatic costs of such action.

> You're worried about the treatment of three WAR CRIMINALS
> who, according to the Geneva Convention, can be executed
> on a whim.

 No, I explicitly said that I wasn't. I'm worried that innocent people are
getting treated like "WAR CRIMINALS", and I'm worried that we're wasting
propaganda opportunities out of vindictiveness.

> Google for the word "dhimmi"

 There is no chance, whatsoever, that that will ever happen in the U.S. Get
over it.

> What else do you call it when someone spends more
> time opposing the actions of their own country in
> defending itself rather than those who are have
> declared war on, and are actively attacking not
> only tht country, but all of western civilization.

 Iraq wasn't self-defense. Afghanistan was, until the current administration
forgot about it.

 Iraq still isn't self-defense, since it's creating and training more terrorists.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles                                         (313) 227-2317

 "[In 2006, the Bush] administration will phase out the $2,000 tax
 credit for buying a hybrid vehicle... but will leave in place the
       $25,000 tax write-off for a Hummer." - Molly Ivins
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