[mdlug-discuss] [mdlug] OT - IR jamming

Ingles, Raymond Raymond.Ingles at compuware.com
Fri Feb 22 12:02:08 EST 2008


> From: Aaron Kulkis

> Of course, to get such special treatment, you have to work
> at it -- specifically, to train with, and swear allegience
> to people who are at war with the United States.
> 
> At that point, you're no longer a civilian, and you fall
> under Geneva Convention rules.  If you choose to carry out
> your struggle without wearing a uniform (which can be as
> simple as an identification armband), or do other things
> such as setting up military facilities among the civilian
> populace, and other ways of deliberately causing your
> enemy's actions against you to maximize civilian casualties,
> or placing military equipment in protected places (such as
> hospitals, religious sites, etc.) then you're a war
> criminal, and even the Geneva Convention classfies you as
> an "illegal combatant" and you have NO protections --
> basically, the life and well-being of an illegal combatant
> are at the whim of his or her captors.

 Of course, there's Article 5 of the Geneva Convention. It's pretty short and
unambiguous. Here's the entire thing:

 "The present Convention shall apply to the persons referred to in Article 4
  from the time they fall into the power of the enemy and until their final
  release and repatriation.

  Should any doubt arise as to whether persons, having committed a belligerent
  act and having fallen into the hands of the enemy, belong to any of the
  categories enumerated in Article 4, such persons shall enjoy the protection
  of the present Convention until such time as their status has been determined
  by a competent tribunal."

 That last part, the "competent tribunal" stuff - that's what the U.S. has
avoided doing for, oh, about five years now.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles                                             (313) 227-2317

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