[mdlug-discuss] The Hell you say? More energy out than in

[Aaron Kulkis]

gib at juno.com wrote:
> Well, I don't think a heater has to get more energy out than in to be effective.  Look a how a tree grabs sunlight and converts it.  So, why can't a heater obtain heat to be redistributed?
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Chlorophyll is a well known light->chemical energy converter, which
produces less chemical energy than the energy of the light absorbed.

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> On 9/16/07, *Garry Stahl* <tesral at comcast.net 
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>     OK, check this one out.  I might be replacing my water heater at the
>     least.  Converting the house to hot water heat might not be cost
>     effective, but wow.  A twelve inch tube that can replace your house's
>     boiler, and to be on the market in 18 months?  Efficiency is the key
>     here.  You get out 150 -200% more than you put in. 
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> There's no such thing as better than 100% efficiency.
> Hell... I've never even heard of 100% efficiency.
> You can't cheat physics. It's simply not possible to get more energy 
> out than you put in.
> And the phrase "Even the makers of the device are at a loss to explain 
> exactly how it works" is a GIGANTIC red flag.
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